It's really powerful if you can get past that, that idea that somehow a good relationship means you'd never talk about it, which is the most absurd myth that we've all really been fed. On the other hand, polyamory has certain rules. No, I got it. She believes that everyone should make room for love in their lives and encourages couples to work on overcoming their challenges together. In order for your relationships to go smoothly, there is a certain level of intentionality and discussion that has to happen around a lot of aspects of relationships. Yes, there's that, and now it's just fun. They dont differentiate between their romantic, sexual, or platonic partners. 1. I think a common critique that comes up about honestly any intentional relationship tool or conversation is, "Oh, but this doesn't lend itself to organic relationships." We're discussing relationship anarchy: can it be practiced in monogamy or is it a contradiction of terms? Most importantly, it is based on three pillars: Effective communication Empathy Willingness to express your emotions Having these initial conversations is not necessarily a binding agreement, which I think is so important because a lot of our language and our mainstream culture around relationships is we love having binding agreements. With that brief history and that beautiful quotation we're going to talk a little bit more about the relationship anarchy Smrgsbord . This is what is not going look like now. It doesn't cut it out clearly how we're actually connecting to each other. Our researcher for this episode actually had a discussion with Maxx Hill and they are the creator of versions two through five, the majority of the versions that are even out there. It just means that there's communication around these organic changes happening. Dedeker: Well good job, me. Well, no they didn't even tag me. Although the society believes that. Thanks for joining us, explorers! Dedeker: Yes. That is something we are comfortable with in certain arenas, like the conversation about cohabiting or starting a family together or becoming coworkers that those are arenas where we do recognize like, "Okay, there has to be some intentionality and discussion behind this," and it's okay to extend that into other aspects of our relationships and it doesn't make it any less organic. Initially, I wanted to have Maxx Hill, who is the creator of versions two through five of the relationship NRV Smrgsbord on for a bonus episode, but we all realized after talking with Maxx that a longer fuller length interview with them would be the best. Well, monogamy is the practice of engaging in a. with only one partner. Things like labels/terms, that's interesting, that's fun because I know a lot of people care about what label is this relationship, essentially. Jase: It's like you're at the buffet picking out the stuff and being like, "What do you think about this broccoli? They actually comprehend that not all relationships are equal. That old chestnutNext critique that comes up for this is there's too many categories on this ding-dang thing. I guess the first thing is just, it's okay to make it your own. As you just said so many of us grow up thinking that we know exactly what a sexual relationship or romantic relationship looks like, versus platonic relationship. Some last few things that we wanted to say about this is that the board can be used with other people as well as being used alone. Holmbo. Then bord, which means table, like a board, like a board of wood that you put food onto, and that it is Smrgsbord, not Shmorgasbordg. Emily: Thank goodness. You could go through this with your mail carrier, or-- I don't know why I always go to the mail carrier. Dedeker: I do remember watching all these kids turning in their homework and feeling a little bit, sorry for them, but you're like, gosh, they really didn't get it. , while relationship anarchists dont. Gross. We talked about this in a previous episode, but this takes the guesswork out of that. We can come up with this custom-built connection that ideally shifts and changes and we check in on constantly instead of just assuming that we're going to try to follow the same exact script without talking about it. There are people out there who do think, friendship that strictly platonic, no physical interaction whatsoever, but another person might be comfortable with kissing or holding hands with their friends or being nude around their friends. Mar 2, 2022 - Polyamory is openly, honestly, and consensually loving and being committed to more than one person. This is a terrible unethical social experiment but it's funny in my mind. Emily: You're like, "I don't want to do it.". I want to do it with my partner. Relationships are complex, and what might seem acceptable for someone in a friendship relationship might not be for someone else. Dedeker: Yes, but then on the other hand, it's also great. Do we want daily, do we want monthly, do we want it inconsistently? Oh yes, that could affect how we can relate to each other and how those power dynamics and imbalances might play out. Many of you are familiar with relationship anarchy and some of you may even practice it but do what the RA Smrgsbord is? Like we described earlier, the chart that we looked at the version that we have has little spaces for writing down notes in each category. We can go through this together and have at least prompts for discussion. It just takes the guesswork out of trying to determine what each of your needs and expectations are. Doing shared activities, having shared interests, having intellectual or philosophical discussions. Dedeker: It's so thinking about, I think that we don't often track our own history as people in these weird little fringe communities. Most of them really. Jase: Yes. What is right for the relationship and what isnt needs to be decided by the people involved in it. What communication frequency do we want? Most memorable characters of 2022: Sunday from The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare; Ebenezer Scrooge from A Christmas Carol; Hamlet; Moby Dick; Aslan from The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe. If I answer for the two of us it looks like this: Romantic: check. We want to tweak this a little bit. There's nothing wrong with liking boxes to contain your relationships, it works better for a lot of people (most people probably), but it's more a modification of the usual relationship package than a rejection of it. Get access to ad-free episodes, monthly video discussion groups, and more by becoming aPatreon supporter! That's the one that we're going to be talking about today. Another difference between a solo poly vs relationship anarchy is structure. The categories are loose gernalizations to help conversation, and are arranged with those relating to the larger social/political systems toward the outside, and the more personal toward the center. Legal Connections Face-to-face Financial Sexual Power of attorney Frequency Involving genitals, anus Adoption Click here for ways you can support positive change through petitions, demonstrations, and donation. How do we relate to each other physically in a more, do we touch each other at all? The partnership, with time, changes to autonomy but how they connect with their partner totally depends on them. You can find tickets here, and the ticket comes with a recording of the class after the fact. Right? I got a lot of feedback and made version three shortly thereafter, version four, version five grew out of feedback from this group, the solo-poly group, a polyamory group, and comments on the original post of my timeline. Go for it. The categories are loose generalizations to help conversation and are arranged with those relating to the larger social/political systems toward the outside and the more personal toward the center. It always makes me feel like, because as I think it doesn't necessarily build in a lot of this flexibility into it, because this tool is also supposed to act as a temperature check on things and a way to assess compatibility. I'd be interested to do it with you two as well. You and your partner can sit with your smorgasbord in your respective sheets and mark all the elements that you would like to include in the relationship. Can use that to start a want/will/won't discussion. Another difference between a solo poly vs relationship anarchy is structure. August 02, 2022. Emily: Everyone let's pull out our boards and if you're following along, or if you already have your own relationship anarchy Smrgsbord, then maybe you can pull it out right now and take a look. The idea of relationship anarchya term coined by Andie Nordgren is that people within a relationship are the complete and total agents of that . What is right for the relationship and what isnt needs to be decided by the people involved in it. The Smorgasbord has as its concept the idea that every relationship you have with another person is like a plate that the two of you are filling from this buffet of many options. Its values include autonomy, anti- hierarchical practices, anti- normativity, and community interdependence. The best place to share your thoughts with other listeners is on this episode's discussion thread in our private Facebook group or Discord chat. Think of it like a buffet smorgasbord and you and your partner have one plate to fill, you have to communicate and choose what goes on the plate together. They believe that the label was a hindrance in the path of an RA. Actually I don't even think it's that overwhelming but I get it customize--. Emily: Another critique is something along the lines of, "It's missing blank," or "I don't like that this thing is under a specific category. Now I would love to see how this would look like in your relationships? We're going to get more into exactly how to use those potential caveats things that people have brought up, and a little bit more. Relationship Anarchy Worksheet Smorgasbord Participants: Instructions Use the Smorgasbord as a starting point to negotiate what will be included in your relationship: 1. Wows, this amazing eloquent person who put it so well. 2) bondage . This all came from M and they said, also that the board that we talked about today, it had a lot of community input from. The concept of open marriage has long existed in society's periphery. Even as you drill down, you're customizing and in this example, it might be like, "Yes, we want to share a home, but I would actually rather have separate rooms.". If this show is . However, considering RA is not about labels, theres a smooth relationship transition, whether they are platonic or otherwise. Dedeker: I do know. Literally, it is more of a buffet, a big table with lots of different food that you can pick from. I love it." It's a table listing 16 different areas of relationships, including romance, friendship, cohabitation, touch, partnership, caregiving, emotional intimacy, emotional support, and finances. It just means that if one of you wants to add or subtract anything on the relationship Smrgsbord that you should approach the other person and have a conversation about whatever it is that you'd like to change. Finally, January 2019 was version five. We're talking about version five, which is the most recent one from 2019. You can have your feedback in there as well. What is a Revocable Living Trust for a Married Couple? Oh yes, sounds wonderful." Emily: Umlaut, yes. They and some friends took anarchist principles and applied them to relationships, challenging the idea that a romantic partner should always be prioritised above everyone else, which is a key component of our monocentric culture. Jase: Yes, I think there's a couple of parts of that as well. It becomes really clear, I think for me, looking at this chart, becomes really clear about how our traditional labels of friend, romantic partner, acquaintance, and stranger, doesn't quite cut it. Emily: All right. It is focused on consent, openness, and honesty. Like a power imbalance because of your gender. folks in the RA community. I think this is really important to bring up is in something like a non-monogamous relationship or maybe you're more experienced with polyamory and you're dating someone who's new to it, that if you were going through this relationship anarchy Smrgsbord, you might get to that mentoring part and that could be for you a chance to say, "I don't want to be this for you. Oh my God. You might say, "No, we're not going to share a sleeping space but we are going to share a home," or you could even have that where you're not sharing meals or maybe you do want to share a sleeping space but not share a home. It's like, "Oh, you know what? Couples consensually creating mutual arrangements that work for their needs is a good thing, but historically, the subject has. We're discussing its history and creation, its significance, and how. We're going to do that at some point in the future and this week in lieu of a bonus episode, just please check out and support Maxx's work. 1. I thought I was going to be the only one. Emily: Relationship anarchy principles, they recommend customizing relationships to the shape and the texture, the feel of what's right for all of the individuals involved. Like any tool it has limits and is mostly a good starting point for the discussions you really need to have about what you want a particular relationship to be. I really didn't know much about it at all, and M was very instrumental in creating this episode and really giving me their knowledge because I needed it. I think that that could be a really valuable thing with a Smrgsbord as well. This is a great tool to make sure that you're all on the same page with your relationship. It might just be an easy, "Okay, Yes. Juliette Crone-Willis. relationship bet ween government and civil society, NGOs, the private sector, academia, faith- based groups , and women's and youth organisations. Pick the ones that are to you and leave the rest. Emily: Yes, we're going to talk deeper into that. Emily: I love that. It might be good, especially for ones that you really want to spend some time digging into. Another piece of advice from our researcher is that you can do it all at once or you can break it into chunks because there's a lot of different topics here. I know Dedeker, you said that you send it off to clients. I actually think would be a really cool tool to apply in some of those situations. They said this, "At this point, I have a Facebook, which is Maxx Hill M-A-X-X Hill, where I have shared the Smrgsbord publicly and I've had discussions about it. Pre-identifying as a (monogamous) relationship anarchist, this stuff used to give me a headache. I've never used this exact graphic in my own relationships (the latest version was created after my romantic relationship started) but the subjects listed are definitely some of the things that get brought up in discussing with play partners what a partnership looks like to us and what activities are involved - though there's a lot of "jumping off" from the relevant categories. Jase: Right. Polyamorous Relationship. People in this practice advocate people to develop independently of each other, which is in conflict with the not just sex thing,. Holmbo. However, RA is just a flexible form of commitment. You can connect with Leah here . This points to the uniqueness of each of us. Its an excellent idea to adjust, add, and subtract things in the smorgasbord to suit your needs. I'm just trying to speak to like the kinesthetic, the more physical visual learners out there who maybe have a harder time codifying things just by like writing, and instead would benefit more from being able to physically move things around in space. There's different ways you could do it and that doesn't mean that you have to negotiate what kind of sex to have with your mail carrier. What are your love/apology languages? It's essentially instead of it being like, "Do you want a relationship or not?" There are even ways you can contribute for free. It does not have any rules. Dedeker: No, no, no. According to anarchists, the idea of love being limited to a couple is questionable. not Shomore, Smore. This week's episode is all about the Relationship Anarchy Smorgasbord! It's going to be a fun episode about how you can make your relationship better which is basically what all of our episodes are about in one way or another. 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