According to in . I'd say the Nerevarine and Dragonborn are both probably equal in terms of how influential they were. Achievements: Nerevarine, for nothing more than he killed a larger number of gods with fewer numbers; and that he has personally met 4 gods in the flesh right in front of him. - Already early on you learn who you really are, and you acquire the full knowledge rather fast. Skyrim would be a hell of a lot crazier. Sound makes your spells fizzle. Granted, the spell library is far less impressive. but a few town gourds can kill them also so. and let's not start on the waaaaayyyy better and longer story in morrowind that was made very well. the point is that dagoth ur is much more powerfull than the nine divines, and subgods like vivec. The nerevarine doesn't have any unique abilities like dragon shouts, but they were still able to defeat godly entities without it. I'm only going factor in the main questlines of each game because even though I think the side quests are "canon", I don't necessarily think it was the protagonists that carried them out. Bloodlusted 3. Historically only Nords or those of Nord blood (such as the Septim line) are Dragonborn. due to corpus disease and other ones but he had no ill effects of the illness.He also has that sword (forgive me idr the name xD) which is extremely powerful. StorylineNerevarine, no doubt: - Already at the beginning you're released knowing you were 'born on a certain day to uncertain parents'- You are the reincarnation of an ancient hero whose ample history you learn about during the game, with all the implications in the actual game. If for no other reason than mythic precedence. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This version of VS is very detail oriented and sticks very close to the original plot lines that are in the game. The challenges have made you tough, after all you've beaten three demi-gods and a Daedra (Dagoth Ur, Almalexia and Vivec, and Hircine of course); all this with your own force, no Voice included. Num 2 - Infinite Shield. Lastly, the Forgotten Hero died during his battle with Mecinar at the Clockwork City. There was this awesome youtuber who did like a movie version of Skyrim, and only then did I realize how canonically broken shouts are and how powerful Dragons and Dovahkin really are. In terms of achievements, that's tough to say. analytics and serving ads. * TheChosenMany: ** This fic has the Dragonborn, the Mane of the Khajiit, a descendant of Talos and the Nerevarine, as well as [[spoiler:the former Champion of Cyrodiil come Daedric Prince Sheogorath.]] In a line of dialogue about the Nerevarine, Neloth tells the Dragonborn that they were too young to remember the Nerevarine and that "He defeated Dagoth Ur and saved us all from the blight.". New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Rather than a single recorded statement like the Prophecy of the Dragonborn, the Nerevarine Prophecy was foretold in different terms across a number of written texts and oral legends. All three have defeated at least one god, the Nerevarine himself two or three. Answer (1 of 2): The whole idea of who is or isn't powerful, and who is more or less powerful from another, is a difficult thing to answer in TES. The simple truth is that it's impossible to tell which Hero would win in an all out duel. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. JavaScript is disabled. It's probably 50/50. The Dragonborn? Here's the . Awesome fight of awesomeness! We may use cookies to help customize your experience, including performing Does this mean that the Nerevarine is more powerful than Mehrunes Dagon? At maximum power, all three are superhuman mages, warriors, AND thieves. This is all assuming that CoC is not Sheo at the time and that Nerevar hasn't achieved CHIM. if Nerevarine defeated dagoth ur, then i guess that he is much more powerfull that the nine divines himselfWhere did you get that from? Nerevarine killed two gods and beat a third. Both the Dragonborn and the Vestige defeat Vampire Lords without much trouble, even if the Dragonborn doesn't use Auriel's Bow. All in all this was really well thought out, thank you. Nerevarine = Nerevar, Dragonborn = Ysmir. I give second place to the DB, who is homies with Herma Mora and has deep connections to Aka and probably Lorkhan. The Dragonborn had Alduin kryptonite and Harkon kryptonite, and also allies against both, but when he faced down Miraak and the three dragons he didn't have any fancy power or item that Miraak didn't have. With some special gear of course: Wraithguard, Keening, Sunder, Trueflame, all very powerful artifacts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Anyone along the Septim Bloodline is a Dragonborn. And can fly. Burning Firefighting Soul. Random battle in an open area. Dragonborn does not stand a chance, he has no Strength, no Intelligence, not even Luck. All three will be using bows, then, which have the sufficient range and can get past reflect damage enchantments. Being made from that enantiomorph may give him an intrinsic understanding of the cosmos that ordinary mortals lack. execution of the windows script host failed this program is blocked by group policy. So if you look at it from this perspective, it would imply that the Nerevarine would probably beat the Dragonborn in a duel. From a gameplay perspective, the Nerevarine could easily mop the floor with the Dragonborn. - Nerevarine:You have no really useful inborn trump you could use in combat; the only thing you have is being able to wear the Moon-and-Star, Nerevars ring. Nerevarine has 100% sanctuary. Op is talking about the two characters, not the players. Though the passing of millennia made the prophecy all but forgotten . But not necessarily. Elder Scrolls and Fallout community: character builds, lore, discussions and more. DuelNow this gets tricky here+ Dragonborn: You have the power of The Voice. Feel free to explain your reasoning. Nerevarin can have 100% immune to physical (Sanctuary 100 points) and magic damage (Reflect 100pts). Now considering Lord Neverar defeated Jurgen Windcaller, one could clearly state that Nerevarine > Dragonborn. He can piss on dragonborn standing in front of him and wouldn't get any retribution, even if dragonborn will hit him until death from old age.Not to mention that dragonborn is an idiot without IQ stat at all. Choose your favorite ANIMATED LOGO for our Discord server icon. And both the Nerevarine and the CoC did slowly push the entirety of Mundus closer to destruction when they completed their goals. The Dovahkiin, also known as The Last Dragonborn, is the main protagonist and player character of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. (all legal whitout mods)and the dragonborn isn't realy that special. Nerevarine blitzes Dragonborn at physics breaking velocities. Names are also changed slightly, and some characters in this story do not exist in the other. Most people will probably vote dragonborn, so I'll vote nerevarine to be a contrarian. Dragonborn has shouts, which largely ballance out the superior magic of both the CoC and Nerevarine, though the last had more impressive enchanting. Here's the . Nerevarine. Is the Dragonborn a septim?-In Oblivion, they refer to Martin as the Dragonborn while on the main storyline as he is being brought to Cloud Ruler Temple. Nerevarin can have 100% immune to physical(Sanctuary 100 points) and magic damage(Reflect 100pts). For more information, please see our maybe the seven trials or seven visions) some where in it the nerevarine is called dragonborn. Report offline redfan45 Jan 9, 2018. On the one hand, both the Nerevarine and the Dragonborn are confirmed to have defeated gods in single combat -- something the CoC can't say. Num 5 - Set Move Speed.. The biggest advantage the dragonborn has is dragon shouts. The Dragonborn can solo them handily, meanwhile the Vestige needs a group and dies whenever they miss a mechanic. Nerevar and Ysmir did actually fight, and Nerevar was able to drive Ysmir away. Both are at full power with all their abilities and gear. Of course, the Dragonborn would be 100% invisible and silent with silent casting. Nerevar repeatedly bested Wulfharth, meaning that a previous incarnation of the Nerevarine bested a previous incarnation of the Dragonborn. Search: Skyrim Together Reborn. With all of Vvardenfell united under their name, the Nerevarine led the Dunmer in their battle against the encroaching forces of the Sixth House, recovering the Tools of Kagrenac and personally invading Red Mountain to defeat Dagoth Ur in one final confrontation. The Dovahkiin is awesome and shit. On the other hand, the Nerevarine indirectly destroyed the entirety of Vvardenfell and rendered much of Morrowind uninhabitable, while the CoC did at least save Cyrodiil. NemeBro. Is it because of the fact that there are more skills in Morrowind? Language: English Words: 27,843 Chapters: 8/8 Bit of a tossup. It's kinda hard to determine. So as I said a fight wouldn't be fair.I like the character of Nerevarine more because as u said he has more background.But wouldn't it be nice to put the Champion of Cyrodill in the fight.He is my favorite definitely.He is a man who ascended from mortality to become the Deadric god of Madness, restored the Knight if the Nine, helped Martin defeat a Deadric lord and all because he was in prison at the right time at the right place. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I'll give Swarm a pass for the thread though. Miraak was also a not-so-lesser Aedroth whose power bordered on divine, so there's that. The characters are the players as accessing the console commands is given a canon explanation, which applies to both I believe. At least that's my impression. The Nerevarine is the reincarnation of Nerevar, destined to defeat Dagoth-Ur. Using fortify speed effects or levitation, the nerevarine could get a similar result. This is his only real trump, and a major one: you defeat the son of an Aedra, a god, using your shouts. Or was the Hero of Kvatch always . It also explains how the Dragonborn is essentialy mantling Talos/Shor/Lorkhan. Is this based on lore or maxed out in-game skills and abilities? Num 1 - Infinite Health. The most powerful possible CoC is covered in reflect damage enchantment, and all three would be nigh immune to magic. I've had this theory for awhile now but i believe it IS possible for the nerevarine from morrowind to also be the dragonborn from skyrim. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fudgemuppetIn our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we aim to crown the greatest hero in Tamriel! And can fly. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Fortify Alchemy +fortify enchanting potion and produce a weapon which oneshots the Nerevarine via pure physical damage in less than 10 minutes while giving the Dragonborn basicly sufficient HP and utterly insane HP regen because of that. Nerevarine also has an insane. Fortify Alchemy +fortify enchanting potion and produce a weapon which oneshots the Nerevarine via pure physical damage in less than 10 minutes while giving the Dragonborn basicly sufficient HP and utterly insane HP regen because of that. I don't it's as certain as you suggest that Alduin was not going to eat the world. CoC didn't kill Mehrunes, and probably used the equivalent of kryptonite on his other baddies. If the LDB is an incarnation of Wulfharth. Aware of each other and can see each other clearly 2. The Dragonborn is interesting; we have no indication of him coming into contact with any books or materials that would lead him to know that such a thing called CHIM even exists, but at the same time, he does mantle Ysmir, who was an aspect of Talos, who achieved CHIM. Are there records (in game books, dialogues) of how the How are the wood elves the most prolific of all the mer Is it Ethically immoral to soul trap undead? That is changed in the second version. can you explain what you mean by a total maxed out Nerevarine is more powerful than the other two? Elder Scrolls and Fallout community: character builds, lore, discussions and more. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (11. elfter Monat des Jahres 2011) daneben pro Add-ons Dawnguard (2012), Hearthfire (2012) weiterhin Dragonborn (4. There's the gear from harkon and miraak, but I don't think those will be too useful. You are using an out of date browser. Learn More. Besides that, two decided the fates of a country each while the other became madness itself, which is pretty important. Can Something I reflected on with lion heraldry in Tamriel, Press J to jump to the feed. Achievements: All three are ridiculously successful. - You even get to epicly fight your ex - You first have to learn about who you really are, which takes some time, and then have to win the support of most involved parties. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works He pretty much defeated the Atmorans that way. Of course you have to acquire your own skills and so on to prevail, but the voice is your only major weapon. There's also the ring of moon and star, which gives the nerevarine supernatural powers of persuasion and could be used to convince the dragonborn to back down. No game has ever simulated a singularity better than Morrowind. All we know for sure is he wasn't trying to in the past. But I think the Dragonborn might be baffled by the Nerevarine's gear. Sure they could. Both the Vestige and the Nerevarine battle the Imperfect in Clockwork City. However, we can deduct. Champion of Cyrodiil is harder to evaluate, there's a lot more vagueness going on with him, Six gods, if you count the Mara and Tiber avatars [or was it Mara and Stendar?]. @teaganwallis193: gameplay wise , dragonborn can literally eat 223,000,000,000,000 cheese wheels in matred if Zero seconds, Fallout characters can carry millions of bullets and guns, Using gameplay as canon is pure stupidity. Gunfire Reborn 6.12 Update Announcement - last accessed on 2020-07-04 Verified by User:Aaronth07 on 2020-12-23 Unity does not support HDR output on PC.Gunfire Reborn is a level-based adventure game featuring FPS, roguelite, and RPG elements. The Nerevarine also has Trueflame, which beats the piss out of most 1handed swords elsewhere. There's also the sword trueflame, which is said to be powerful enough to kill a god, if wielded with noble intent. Cookie Notice My favouriteHonestly I prefer the Nerevarine, for having much more backstory, having to fight up the ladder from the mud till the highest point, while the Dragonborn is some kind of wonder child that comes all veni-vidi-vici-style. The Nerevarine is broken beyond all fucking recognizable limits, he's immortal, and he fucks his own universe's laws like they're cheap, coked up whores. #10 April 2019 Quote baltic1284 He went to akavir Following the fulfillment of the prophecies, the Nerevarine vanished. Nerevarine vs DragonBorn; Zero_IX 10 years ago #11. At least, not as having significance for the covenant, the Imperial throne, etc. Who is better? Conclusion:I think the outcome of a duel will be unpredictable. Num 4 - Set Game Speed. And we all know his capabilities in magick extremely surpasses those of the dragonborn and in fact the nerevar is still alive even during the events of skyrim. Dragon-Blood = Dragonborn, or more accurately Dragonborn = Dragon Blood since being born with the 'blessing/curse' of Dragonborn means you have Dragonblood flowing in your veins. And, no I don't think they can since they'll edit each other from their realities. The Dragonborn drinks a fortify enchanting potion Man, if only that was close to as broken as intelligence fortifying. and our Along with the Nerevarine, Jiub is in the process of being released from jail when he promises to turn his life around. You get propelled to the level of Whiterun thane early on, etc. Hell, he could even summon a dragon for his aid. Has there Are there any cultures/organizations that use magic to How does anyone know what Molag Bal even looks like? One may become a god, as Talos did, because mortals are related to the Aedra. How would this battle go ? - You don't have to prove yourself to the people and the major involved parties except to the Greybeards. It all depends, if Azura still watches over her hero, then Nerevarine will win, otherwise the Voice might get the upper hand. LDB has the best bows and the best arrows, as well as wicked archery techniques. The Nerevarine met Vivec and (may have) read the 36 Lessons. Anything Dragonborn can do Nerevarine can do better. Historical precedent suggests the Nerevarine. They are a legendary Hero whose coming was long foretold by the Elder Scrolls, and said to coincide with the return of Alduin, as the only one who will be able to challenge and stop the World-Eater. In 3E 433, there are rumors that the Nerevarine has left on an expedition to Akavir, and has not been heard from since their departure. The Nerevarine is the most likely to have achieved CHIM, if any of the Heroes do. Page 4 of 6 - The Nerevarine vs The Hero of Kvatch vs Dovahkin - posted in General Skyrim Discussion: Nerevarine defeated dagoth ur. The Dragonborn can at best resist 85% of magicka and/or absorb 100% of it for a minute while the Nerevarine can be invulnerable to literally everything and levitate and rain down massive destruction . ;) I just got the the part of the main quest where you visit Holamayan for the first time, and I got a bit of a shock when Gilvas Barelo gave me my copy of The Lost Prophecy! He has better lore feats, and Morrowind really emphasizes how much more powerful you get along the way from random prisoner to reincarnated god killer. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . It's up to the Dragonborn to decide whether or not to help the doddering, immortal madman. And considering that the Nerevarine is stronger than his original incarnation, he probably can take on the Dragonborn. And while the Dragonborn did defeat Alduin, we learn that Alduin wasn't actually going to eat the world -- he was just trying to rule it. The Nerevarine will use 100 strength, acrobatics and archery and jump across akivir (or wherever he is now) and throw a throwing star and that nord pig and theres the end of skyrim. That's not a small achievement. all of Nerevarine's lore feats are based around killing Mortals and Tricking Dagoth Ur, He was completely out matched by ur and needed to use the Tools of Kragrenac to free the heart of Lorkhan, The Almalexia he killed was a weakened form who just a mere mortal mage at thus point, Dragonborn on the other hand , can do pretty much everything Nerevsrine can like learn conventional magic and sword mastery like his predecessors but his mastery of Thu'um puts him a level ahead of The Champion of Cyrodill and Nerevarine, Now if you use Champion of Cyrodill as Sheogorath then it is a totally different topic, Whoever pull up the console commands first. If he does that it doesn't matter because he could do many things with his voice. So I suppose there's a slight chance there. CHIM likelihood: Nerevar had more access to the knowledge and was bros/rivals/enemies with Vehk. So I suppose there's a slight chance there. He is just in another continent .Honestly I think he has been the best character they have made yet, the nerevar had no support or anything there weren't jarls kissing his butt or old men with beards shouting advice at him. Shouts are a form of tonal manipulation, and wraithguard protects its wearer from the tonal energies of the other 2 tools. Corvo vs Dragonborn #1 Edited By Israphael Corvo from Dishonored versus the Dragonborn 1. The issue is they just reload from the save file. He had no help until Mora killed the already-defeated first dragonborn. Assuming that the dragonborn has his speed related shouts he cohld outrun the CoC and fire arrows at him. In fact, the Dragonborn were so common as the emperors of Cyrodill. Nerevarine loses but puts a better fight than the Dragonborn would have had since he fought the Ebony Knight. Options. In The Elder Scrolls V: Dragonborn, Neloth seemingly confirms the Nerevarine's gender is male, [15] although former employee Michael Kirkbride later stated about the quote, "That line was a mistake a designer made in haste. that is so ahaha so nice. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If wraithguard isn't able to protect the nerevarine against shouts, they can still fight back with magic but it won't be as effective. Doesn't the Nerevarine have reflect damage? They're also biologically immortal and have enhanced stats because of corprus. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Gameplay wise. The Nerevarine attained immortality by the Corprus disease but he also sailed far to Akavir. That there explains why he can be the master of the thu'um 2. Note: I know how overpowered you could make the Nerevarine and Hero of Kvatch in Morrowind and Oblivion respectively, so let's say their skills are balanced to the level of the Dovahkiin's. As in the canon, all three are male; the Nerevarine is a dark elf, the Hero i. The characters are the players as accessing the console commands is given a canon explanation. 8/10 Jiub. Page 9 of 14 - Nerevarine, 7th Champion of Cyrodiil & Dragonborn - posted in Skyrim Spoilers: I dont remember the ending of Shivering Isles. But the whole "becoming Sheogorath" thing probably precludes him from ever achieving CHIM. The reason for this is because TES characters, especially the protagonists (called the Prisoner) are left ambiguous on purpose. Both the Dragonborn and the Nerevarine are strong champions, one has dragonblood and the voice, the other is a reincarnated ancient hero and a Daedras protege. So I'm gonna go with a three-way tie here. He has better lore feats, and Morrowind really emphasizes how much more powerful you get along the way from random prisoner to reincarnated god killer. Well personally I like the idea of the Dovahkiin more.A man born with the soul of a dragon.But they both are just great and I don't think a fight would be fair.But if they could use the same weapons/armor and magic I think the Dovahkiin would win just because of his ability to shout. But that's a boring explanation and so we'll ignore it. He has been blessed by Akatosh with the blood and soul of a Dragon. The Dragonborn is interesting; we have no indication of him coming into contact with any books or materials that would lead him to know that such a thing called CHIM even exists, but at the same time, he does mantle Ysmir, who was an aspect of Talos, who achieved CHIM. I'm under the impression that all of them could detect each other's sneak attempts, making it a battlemage contest. HoK as of the end of the Shivering Isles The LDB as of the end Dragonborn The Vestige in their Champion of Akatosh form All combatants have access to all abilities from their respective games The. Without the voice he's just an average warrior. Power: depends on the playthrough. ** Sotrahkun and Brynjolf enact a ritual that [[spoiler:summons Dragonborn from alternate timelines courtesy of the Amulet of Kings]]. But even if it could, there's still the dragon aspect shout that the dragonborn could use on themself, giving them a stat advantage as well. The LDB would probably be a tough fight too to be fair. The bow is also supposed to make its wielder more resilient against attacks. The Ashlanders, indeed, believed that there were many Nerevarine Prophecies, each with different implications, and over time some had been forgotten, hidden, or . Dispel also laughs at your bound weapons. And the CoC defeated Jyggalag. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It's tough to measure how "powerful" someone is, because TES doesn't really have "power levels" (as we discussed in a recent thread here). It just depends upon if you want CHIM Elder Scroll characters or not. -The Blades are sworn to "protect the emporer" in Oblivion, but then sworn to "protect the Dragonborn" In Skyrim.. but there is no difference. That was real something being Nerevarine and Dragonborn at once, couldn't believe my luck. The nevervarine is certainly more in depth than dragonbornthe only thing is remember the nerevar is immortal? 3 The Trainers of Skyrim 3 This is the great thing about Skyrim, there are so many ways to play and build your character, and they all work The Thieves Guild questline is, in my opinion, the best questline in the game Monsters Reborn adds a welcome level of variety to the beasts In the end, the Dragonborn. Privacy Policy. When did the Dragonborn go one on one with a god? All. I am just curious. Nerevar used kryptonite on Dagoth and ALMSIVI, and fought Hircine who holds back for the sake of the hunt. Is it the Champion of C. By doing this, he essentialy becomes stronger and more powerful than any other character in the Elder Scrolls universe. For some reason I thought it was just Vivec breaking the fourth-wall talking about the Mod Creation Tool Kit. Nerevarine. He's a Daedric Prince, which is above the Nerevarine, and he was explicitly above the Dovahkiin, as seen by him pulling him into Pelagius III's mind, and trapping him there. LDB isn't necessarily more impressive but I thought that beating Miraak was a big deal. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Great joke Aye, but the Dragonborn can regenerate Magicka by just standing there. Nerevarine also has an insane amount of magic at his disposal, even for an ES character. The dragonborn in his fury shoved the neravarine and shouted "FUS RO DAH" the nerevarine went backwards but landed on his feet, Unlike most, he uses his extraordinary skills in magic to cast a multitudes of spells at the dragonborn. It was him as a outlander in a very harsh land where outlanders are treated bad and being a outlander posing as the nerevar was even worse.And he also killed two gods. Who would win?Also would appreciate it if people putting in their opinions have played both Skyrim and Morrowind, because I'm sure some people have only played Skyrim and have no clue about the Nerevar or what he is capable of.So people who have good TES knowledge is appreciated.Who would win?? You're a natural champion. While the CoC does eventually become Sheogorath, his original achievements in mortal life seem to have already faded to obscurity; only historians remember him as "that guy who helped Martin stop the Oblivion Crisis". Dragonborn and The Courier vs Nerevarine and Lone Wanderer #1 Edited By Mandarinestro DB and Courier are tired of being compared to their predecessors and travel back in time to kill them. How do they address the fact that Daedra and mortals are entire different species in a very fundamental level? Hero of Kvatch vs. Dragonborn (potential spoilers) YourJanissary 10 years ago #31 neravarine because they will lure you into sex after which you will catch corprus and die. I'd say it's a toss-up, but leaning more towards Dragonborn due to wider versatility of abilities. Second, because he was to dependant on the voice. There's a videogame versus. Lore wise Nerevar himself was strong enough to literally catch shouts (from a possible Dragonborn) with his bare hands. And the Champion of Cyrodiil solos both at the same time. + Nerevarine: As Nerevarine you had to rise up politically as well as militarily. the nerevarine that uses alchemy beats the dagonborn any time.used well he is then basicly a god. I'm replaying Morrowind this week while trying not to DIE waiting. You can freeze him in place and still not hit him. RGM. A bad joke- You have no piece of personal history whatsoever. his job is upposed to be killing dragons. Jiub is a Dark Elf prisoner and the first character the player meets in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. That fight sounded pretty lame, though, didn't it? It may not display this or other websites correctly. With all the relevations recently it's time for a TES battle! Ah. Galo de Lion. @aryansingh: lol with console command Dragonborn is basically a god with infinite health, magic and power. Well, how would two CHIM users fight each other? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If you want to go by pure game mechanics, the Nerevarine probably wins out because a maxed out Morrowind character is way more OP than a maxed out Oblivion / Skyrim character. Dovahkiin from Skyrim vs Nerevarine from Morrowind. Dragonborn are both probably equal in terms of how influential they were able Spell library is far less impressive ( may have ) read the 36 Lessons aware of each game Dragonborn a! 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